When Will the Delta Surge End? (with Michael Osterholm)

Andy and renowned epidemiologist Michael Osterholm discuss how Delta is upending the pandemic landscape. They cover when the wave may end, what Michael thinks we should do about kids and schools, and how it's caused him to rethink his own interactions with his unvaccinated grandchildren.

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Check out these resources from today’s episode: 

Read Andy's letter with the COVID Collaborative calling on the private sector to encourage vaccinations: https://www.covidcollaborative.us/covidsafezones#letter-covidsafezones

Learn more about the Key to NYC Pass: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/08/03/nyregion/nyc-vaccine-mandate.html

Check out the chart Michael showed Andy during this episode: https://www.newstatesman.com/science-tech/2021/07/how-uk-s-covid-19-vaccine-rollout-has-dramatically-reduced-deaths

Here’s a New England Journal of Medicine article that looks at the effectiveness of the vaccines against the Delta variant in the UK: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2108891

Read more about the breakthrough infections in gold miners that Michael mentioned in today’s episode: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/27/10/21-1427_article

Learn more about the CDC’s guidance for COVID-19 prevention in K-12 schools: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/k-12-guidance.html

NBC News is keeping track of companies that are mandating COVID-19 vaccines for all or some employees: https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/here-are-companies-mandating-vaccines-all-or-some-employees-n1275808

Find a COVID-19 vaccine site near you: https://www.vaccines.gov/ 

Order Andy’s book, Preventable: The Inside Story of How Leadership Failures, Politics, and Selfishness Doomed the U.S. Coronavirus Response: https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250770165 

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