When Your Defiant Teens Defy You by Enlisting

NOTE: When we recorded this episode, news reports hadn't yet disclosed that the Dayton shooter's murdered sibling was a trans man. We wanted to update the show notes to reflect that disclosure. It’s hard to write pithy show notes when a horrible weekend has just rained more indiscriminate death and destruction on America. Nate and Francis discovered this week that the Dayton, Ohio shooter followed them both on Twitter, which is not good. In this episode, they discuss whether or not online leftist shitposters should be introspective in this moment. We also got a great question from a listener about how to navigate the fact that troops don’t like leftists and leftists don’t like troops. But then again, what about young leftists or left-adjacent people who join because the military is the closest thing to a real welfare state in America? We spend a lot of time breaking down our views on this, too. This week’s bonus features labor lawyer and Coast Guard vet Carey Shockey (@shocks) on the topic of classic lawyer movie MY COUSIN VINNY. Get it on Patreon here: https://www.patreon.com/posts/28932628 You may have noticed that the first issue of our zine has debuted, and you can get it in print by signing up at the $10 monthly Patreon tier. We have a YouTube channel now -- subscribe here and get sweet videos from us in which we yell in our cars like true veterans: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCwlHZpNTz-h6aTeQiJrEDKw We have a new t-shirt out — get some anarchist agriculture in your life! Buy it here: https://teespring.com/new-anarchist-agricultural#pid=387&cid;=101810&sid;=front You can follow the show on Twitter here: @HellOfAWay Follow Nate here: @inthesedeserts Follow Francis here: @ArmyStrang