Van made an appearance on the Squaring the Circle podcast, a military-facing show that got into his origins in the national security state. The discussion talks about the importance of a working-class perspective in foreign policy, what was really wrong with Obama’s pivot to Asia, why Van is critical of “great-power competition,” and a number of other issues.

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Squaring the Circle: https://shows.acast.com/squaring-the-circle/episodes/discussion-on-foreign-policy-and-the-pivot-to-asia-with-dr-v