Matt Koff, an American TV writer and stand-up comedian, joins Chris and George to talk about the role of humour in Morrissey's work.

He writes for The Daily Show, a big show in the US that has some similarities with Have I Got News For You in the UK. But he's also a big Smiths and Morrissey fan.

Is there something inherently funny about Morrissey's high-drama perspective on the world? And in what ways do Trump and Moz share similarities?

As usual, Nanny Val reacts to a track, there's the trivia quiz, we dig into the lyrics of a song and we bring you some "if you love Morrissey then you'll love this" recommendations.

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