Alex is joined by Jake Payne (50 Plus Doner / Black Fires / Chicago Koln) to catch up on what's been going on since the Fire were knocked out of Leagues Cup, including the run of Inter Miami and how impressive Lionel Messi has been.

They then break down the Fire's second 3-1 loss to Orlando City of the season, as the Fire hold on to the final playoff spot in the MLS Eastern Conference. Finally, they chat a bit about Jake's passion for German soccer and what makes the Bundesliga special.

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