Sadie and Christian are joined by Dr. Josh Kirby — a psychologist, life coach and the co-author of their new book, "How to Put Love First" — and what starts as a conversation about some big themes turns into a mini counseling session! Christian confesses his perfectionist tendencies but is it being a perfectionist or just wanting to be comfortable? Sadie has a strategy for suffering anxiety less in day-to-day life. And they all discuss what community and relationships WITHOUT trust would look like. Plus, are you REALLY an open book like you might claim? You can get a copy of their new book here: https://bit.ly/3PYixMk

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