In our introductory episode, Richard Clark and Bethany Perkins are forced to truly grapple with the nature of their commitment.

What sort of madness leads two relative strangers to start a podcast together and talk about the enneagram with relentless passion and sincerity with their favorite people as guests?

Tune in to find out. (Hint: it's Enneagram Madness)

Richard’s Interview with Ian and Suzanne on “The Calling”: https://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2016/october-web-only/what-does-enneagram-have-to-offer-christians.html

Bethany’s episode of “Fun Sexy Bible Time” where she talks about the Enneagram: https://soundcloud.com/funsexybibletime/perk-city-attempts-to-enneagram-matthewep-62