Episode 1 is not our first attempt, but it is our fifth or sixth start. In this show we lay out what we hope this podcast could be while also discussing iteration and its benefits to design, life, and learning.This is iterative is a constant pursuit of practicing our craft. We are driven by life's design tensions. You are joining in on the conversation between two educators from different world's, both invigorated ton dive deeper into our own vulnerability. We hope you keep listening: Jenn and Trey