Chris Fischer, founder of OCEARCH, joins the show to break down what’s really happening beneath the surface of our oceans. He explains how great white sharks play a critical role in protecting pelagic fish spawning grounds by keeping seal populations in check, and why that balance matters more than most people realize. Chris also shares the unforgettable story of hand-hooking Mary Lee, the legendary great white shark, and tracking her movements all the way to just off the Jacksonville Beach pier. The conversation wraps with an optimistic look at the ocean today, as Chris dives into the current abundance and growth of fish populations and what it signals for the future of marine life.