<p>Randall and John dive into how we got to where we're at: a divided country. We travel back to the 2016 primaries, lessons learned from them, and COVID. We talk about the 'what aboutisms" that keep us locked in debate rather than finding shared moral high ground. </p>

Randall and John dive into how we got to where we're at: a divided country. We travel back to the 2016 primaries, lessons learned from them, and COVID. We talk about the 'what aboutisms" that keep us locked in debate rather than finding shared moral high ground.

002 How Did We Get Here?

John and Randall dive in to realities facing our generation, our country, and the world. Our guests try to make sense of the cards we've been dealt and hopefully encourage us that not all hope is lost.

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002 How Did We Get Here?

002 How Did We Get Here?