In this episode, Levina and Melissa follow the trail of "The Scary Jar" — a simple game for doing the things you’d rather avoid — into a rich conversation about fear, feedback, and freedom.

They share the real and sometimes funny ways fear shows up: avoiding listening to your own podcast, hauling yourself to a yoga class that doesn’t exist, attempting to control the people you love (and everyone else), or bracing against real and imagined feedback. Along the way, they explore what they've seen shift when they've let themselves be seen in real time, listen with a willingness to be changed, and create from inspiration instead of depletion.

It’s part friendship-in-action, part leadership-in-the-mess, and part reminder that joy often lives on the other side of scary.