Iyad tells Ahmed about the process of writing the last chapter of the book, and they discuss some of the difficulties of including Iran in the story of the MENA's uprising.

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0:18 - Using Roam and writing as coding

8:04 - Editing the book

9:21 - Iran and the Arab Spring

15:02 - Thinking about Iran's future

17:35 - Big tech and systems that build systems

19:23 - Balancing work and health