Cyber insurance is a delicate and confusing world, and there's a massive disconnect between insurers and the cybersecurity industry. So what does the average MSP need to know? What is the cyber insurance process in the event of an incident? And how can MSPs protect themselves from liability if their customer experiences a breach? Joseph Brunsman of Brunsman Advisory Group is a veteran of the tech insurance field with a master's in cybersecurity law, and he joins Mac to break down this complex but important topic. Plus: what do the SolarWinds CISO's legal troubles mean for CISOs everywhere?