You know that friend that was quiet in high school but super smart, funny, and destined to be a boss? We do, too. Meet Amy Odell, Editor at Cosmopolitan and author of "Tales from the Back Row," her new book about life behind-the-scenes as a journalist in the fashion industry. Jay Buim chats with Amy for a peak behind the curtain to learn more about Amy’s trajectory. Check out the conversation for details of her interview with Anna Wintour, how she got started in fashion, the changes she’s making at Cosmo, and excellent career advice.

Edited by Jay Buim

Produced by Kate Barnett