Karabeth (KB) Vanick is more of my chosen family, she's a social worker and triathlete from Boston, and her mother Julie is a retired elementary school teacher.

Julie went to college during the 60's when women couldn't wear pants to class, and later were were fighting for equality and she loved it, almost as much as she loves Taylor.

Listen to this mother and daughter pair talk about all things Taylor, as well as their stories. Julie is a treasure the way she talks about Taylor is if she were her own grand-daughter. It is so sweet! Julie definitely wears rose-colored (and heart-shaped!) glasses in the way she sees Taylor, she can do no wrong in her eyes ever.

Grandmas make amazing Swifties, too!