This week's conversation is with Mike Clancy author of the book surf trip a coming of age story in the Golden Era of Surfing

Most of his career was spent at the US Navy's Fleet numerical meteorology and oceanography Center in Monterey where he worked for 28 years and retired in 2011 as the Director.

Mike is also in front of the camera in the upcoming feature film a long road to Tao. Inspired by the book Tao of Surfing: Finding Depth at a Low Tide.

We talk about these, surf forecasting, and how he stays in the ocean in his 8th decade.