Hey there podcast! Thanks again for listening to the 2M Creative Labs Podcast. This was an absolute blast of an episode with one of the most fascinating storytellers I have met. Segun Olude (@segunolude) sits us down and talks about his chase of fish, being stubborn with clients, and being self aware and taking care of yourself first. Amazing analogies included. Are you a new or aspiring designer? Having troubles starting out? Be sure to listen to this one!