In this episode on the podcast, Lowell sits down with Dr. Josh Maurer and discuss his family and conversion story. They also talk about Dr. Josh's dissertation he wrote on the adoption and being conformed to the image of the son, which is in Romans 8:29. Lastly, they also discuss the concept of suffering in the Christian life and what that looks like.

Recommended resources are:

Desire in God by John Piper

The Body God Gives by Robert Smith