Rob, Steve, and Chris are joined by 2 Sine Pari alumni: Yaz and Arron. We chat leadership in the modern day, the juxtaposition of politics and leadership, and Arron's career as a professional dancer.

0:00-5:40:"He bought a hair dryer" Yaz and Arron introduce themselves and talk about how they wound up at the first Sine Pari Crucible.

5:41-9:00:"There's always stuff going on behind the scenes." Yaz and Arron discuss what the student experience was like

9:10-24:00:"I was a professional dancer" Arron talks about how his past experiences have influenced who he is today

24:01-29:10:"I grew up overseas" Yaz talks about traveling in his youth and the perspective it gave him

29:10-48:38:"As leaders, failure is ok" Rob steers the discussion toward overcoming failures and moving forward

48:40-52:30:"Some people like burning other people to the ground" Chris talks about how zero-defect environments cause risk aversion

52:35-1:05:30  :"Everyone needs an antagonist"The guys talk about how our need to compete can lead to conflict especially in social media

1:05:31-1:08:00 :"Maybe you'll have something that's worth discussing"Steve talks about the importance of being correct over being first

1:08:01-1:20:55 :"Everybody gets to be in charge of something" Arron closes out by talking about how the Sine Pari Crucible helped him and what he took from it.