Episode 5 of the Parents After 40 podcast is all about what you need to know about IVF before embarking on it... from a couple who went through it FIVE times.

Kathryn Janicek was a television executive producer for 20 years and she's now a public speaking trainer and media strategist.

Ted has been in healthcare technology for 20 years.

Kathryn built her own company and wanted to build a family.

Ted had bladder cancer years before they met, and the doctors removed his prostate during his life-saving surgery. Ted and Kathryn knew having a baby would be tough -- but not this tough.

Come along as they figure out how to be "Parents After 40."

Hosts: Kathryn Janicek and Ted Wright

Produced by: Kathryn Janicek (www.kathrynjanicek.com)

Edited by: Kirie Quackenbush (www.digitalKirie.com)