In this podcast Dave, a seasoned New York artist, shares his take on creativity as a clean and sober person in recovery. Dave takes us through his art process prior to getting clean and sober, and how the steps and working a program has positively influenced his work. Clean and sober 28 years the week of the podcast, Dave's experience and perspective regarding how to navigate making art and an art career are practical and enlightening. In addition, Dave shares how going through the steps has influenced his life and art. A must listen for artists in recovery.