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This episode is part 1 of the conversation we had we our great friend Erick Villegas, Former US Marine, current land surveying extraordinaire. In this episode we drop the new intro music! we also cover the fact that i (Mike) may have OCD to add to my ADHD. And what are some dream carrer we had as kids and growing up? We also dive into "the challange" what could it be? you gotta listen to find out!

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