The Red Letter Disciple

005: Peter McGowan on What The Church Today Can Learn From Disney, Why His Business Has Two Front Doors, and How Many Joe’s He Knows


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What story is your church or life telling? Story is the thread that knit the entire history of the world together. Peter McGowan has dedicated his life to helping people tell their own stories in order to ultimately tell the greatest story of Jesus. To learn more about the podcast or access the show notes, visit www.redletterpodcast.com

Season 1 of The Red Letter Disciple Podcast could not have been possible without our friends from The Giving Church. Helping more than a thousand churches raise more than a billion dollars for kingdom dreams to come to fruition, do not let financial lids limit what God can do through your church or ministry. Go on over to www.thegivingchurch.com/red and download a FREE PDF for how to grow your church’s giving! 


Resources mentioned in the episode: 


Aimee Semple McPherson

Harry Potter author reveals books' Christian allegory

Mariner’s Chapel

Most pastors cannot produce more than 35 good sermons in a year (and only about one-quarter of those will be really good.)

Plain Joe

Storyland Studios

Steamboat Willie

YouVersion Bible



Key insights from the episode: 


The church has forgotten to tell its story. - Peter McGowan

Story is not just oral or written tradition, it’s a broader vocabulary of design and interaction. - Peter McGowan

The Basic Idea: storytelling needs to be 1) emotional storytelling, 2) special storytelling, and 3) interactive storytelling. - Peter McGowan

Story can connect executive leadership with lower IT managers so that their visions are lined up. - Peter McGowan

The suspension of disbelief is what made Jesus a powerful storyteller. - Peter McGowan

Story is not some new marketing buzzword we just came up with; throughout human history, it’s been led by the storytellers. - Peter McGowan

The creator of the universe comes to this earth, he could have written the whole new testament, and the only thing he wrote down was something temporary in the dirt. - Peter McGowan

Steve Jobs invented the iPhone with a storyline of being able to do all of it without a keyboard. - Peter McGowan

Elon Musk is a modern-day storyteller the church should be listening to right now. - Peter McGowan

I don’t want to go back to the way we did things pre-Covid. - Zach Zehnder

The church is the only organization that does a new content service every week but it is a hamster wheel that burns them out. - Peter McGowan 

Our ability to tolerate change and progress is what’s going to allow us to adapt. - Peter McGowan

So many churches think stewardship is saving everything they have and making every dollar stretch. We’re called to take risks and have that return on investment. - Peter McGowan

Peter’s Challenge of the Week: Ask a family or close friend a story or memory they have about the two of you. Why is that their favorite memory?


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