It's the most wonderful time of the year! So let's sprinkle it with a little MSG and sit by the yule log to begin having one of the most interesting conversations you've heard on our podcast yet. 

We apologize for the audio issues, we're working on them! 

Co-Hosts - Alec Banning, Charles Knurek, Nathan Thibodeau, Travis Brown 

Writers, Contributors and Research Assistants - Alec Banning, Charles Knurek, Jason Bartosiak, Kimberly Thibodeau, Nathan Thibodeau, Travis Brown 

Theme Music and Musical Contributions - Nick Lavallee, aka NikLab https://soundcloud.com/nick-lavallee-914044945 

End holiday music - "Christmas" by AShamaluevmusic https://soundcloud.com/ashamaluevmusic

Special thanks to YOU for making this podcast a thing! We love you!