In this curious conversation, we cover how the economic collapse of 2009 blended the need for sustainability and a passion for a green thumb, the vast amount of free resources out there for horticulture, and how we (like roses) will regrow and prosper again. Special Guest: Doug Wickert Doug is a long-time friend with a dialectic mind that has been both inspirational and supportive of staycurious.org. Above all, it was a pleasure to have him as guest and learn about his curiosities, his passions, and to hear him laugh. Visit his Facebook page Wickert Garderns for more information on anything