This week, Abner Campos is on the show! He currently works as vespers coordinator for the campus ministries office at Union College in Lincoln, Neb. Our conversation goes from the negative view a lot of students have of campus ministries to Abner's personal struggles in his relationship with God. Also, Slade Lane, who will be on the show next time, appears as co host.

The song featured in this week's episode is "Ven a Jesús" from Guillermo Ximenez's soon-to-be-released first album. You can listen to episode 5 to learn more.