"There is this chase to earn money, to be better than your neighbour, but it's a mindless chase."

In part two of our conversation with Jade Seah, hear how a setback on TV taught her to be stronger, and get through the pressure of having to be perfect.

She shares how happiness and meaning is more about the quality of relationships than money or material achievements, and why it was important for her to know her strengths.

Jade is a TV celebrity, host, model and one of Singapore’s top social media influencers.

Another episode brought to you by The School of Positive Psychology.