Peter Bebergal, author of such books as Season of the Witch: How the Occult Saved Rock and Roll and Strange Frequencies: The Extraordinary Story of the Technological Quest for the Supernatural, pops in to talk the occult, David Bowie, golems, and the time he tried to communicate with the ghost of his late father using electronic voice phenomena (EVP). Frank Sivilli also brings some astrological elections for the coming days and I talk about the use of audio in curses.