Summary

In this conversation, Joe and Todd discuss the pros and cons of employing workers versus using subcontractors in the construction industry. They explore different business models, the challenges of managing employees, and the importance of finding a balance between work and personal life. Todd shares his experiences with training employees and the difficulties that arise when they leave for better opportunities. Joe emphasizes the need for proper planning and the potential benefits of subcontracting, while also acknowledging the challenges that come with it.