Unlocking The Energy Trilemma

007 - ZELFRs, the Energy Unicorns


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Mike Caravaggio is the Director of the Thermal & Hydro Fleet at the Electric Power Research Institute (EPRI). He talks with Ravi and JAM about the need to complete renewables with flexible & dispatchable energy. He explains what current technologies can do and what it really takes to get to Net Zero, not optimistic talking.

The conversation ends with the landing of "ZELFRs", the Unicorns of the Energy Sector.

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Unlocking The Energy TrilemmaBy Jose A. Martinez + Ravi Krishnan