Jamie and Alex chat to Adrian Chavez PHD in nutrition. Adrian is our first guest that supports more of a mainstream view on the global health epidemic and its causes, he also does not share the same sentiment towards modern guidelines that we have previously encountered. We hear Adrians thoughts on the global health crisis and we touch on some of the ideas put forward by our previous guests. It seems however, this has far from cleared up any discrepancies more so just presented another way of thinking. It seems the boys have a lot more digging to do. Let us know your thoughts about our journey so far we would love to hear your take.