In this episode, AusCERT features the following guests:

> Kylie Watson, Lead Partner at IBM. Technology Executive (Cybersecurity, Cloud, Data) and Sociologist

> Mark Carey-Smith, AusCERT Principal Analyst

Kylie and Anthony discuss the unique perspective of psychology in cyber security, including diversity of thinking and approaching problems by looking at them through a different lens.

Later in the episode, Mark and Bek talk about the importance of personal and organisational resilience as well as some exciting news about the keynote speaker at AusCERT2022.

This episode was hosted by Anthony Caruana and Bek Cheb.