Originally published on September 12th, 2019. This is the first episode of the later named Black Sheep and Bad Apples podcast. This episode is unscripted, unlike the later episodes. It's not as informational as the later episodes, but it's where we started. 18 years after the event, we discuss were we were when 9-11 happened. Explicit content.

Original description: "This is the first episode of The Loren O'Brien Show, which is a working title. As you will hear in this episode, the guys trapped in 4th Corner Productions are letting you, the listener, help us make the decision about what we call it, while we talk about band beef, a spittoon and where we were when 9-11 happened.

Enjoy. 

*Edit* Now renamed Black Sheep and Bad Apples!"