This week the podcast is all back-to-front! John and Owen talk about Snapchat's $1.8 billion raise, Microsoft's total layoffs of its phone division after licensing back to Nokia, the state of smartphones and how AI is creeping up on us... whether we like it or not.

010: Can phones get any better, or is this it?

Cut through the technology news noise and hear about only the stuff that matters, and what it means. Join your hosts Owen, Frederique and Zach every week to get the lowdown on the biggest stories – including some you might not have heard anything about. We're based in Amsterdam, The Netherlands and Toronto, Canada, with a different perspective on what's happening in the technology industry.

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010: Can phones get any better, or is this it?

010: Can phones get any better, or is this it?