I think it was Walt Whitman who said in life it’s not how many breathes you take, but friends who take your breath away…or something like that. My next guest started his career with me in the trenches and in this vast world that is our planet, we find ourselves conversing again half a decade later – a little older, a little wiser, but definitely still our unique selves. He’s someone you can not speak with for years and when you do again, it feels like home. Please welcome the incredibly intelligent, devilishly handsome, and newly engaged Clive Wong.

Smart Money is a podcast recorded by Dean Thomas, a former investment analyst at Goldman Sachs and the Blackstone Group who quit the corporate life in 2019 to backpack the world, start his own business, and explore spirituality. None of this should be construed as investment advice but rather education and entertainment as a fellow participant in this unprecedented marketplace. We hope you enjoy :)