Note: Our first two episodes were originally only available on Spotify due to licensened music inserted in those episodes. We have republished them without the music tracks. Please enjoy these throwback episodes!

We tried three times to make this episode! It almost didn't happen! Nonetheless we persisted!

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This episode is sponsored by

· Anchor: The easiest way to make a podcast. https://anchor.fm/app

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