Inside tiny edits, there are big secrets.

One of my favorite contemporary musicians is singer-songwriter John Elliott. For the eighth episode of this first season of The Writing Process Podcast, I spoke to the Minnesota-native and San Francisco-based independent artist.

In this episode, I unpack two of powerful writing ideas he exemplifies: leaving space for the reader to co-create and editing to get “more true.”

As an artist I’ve come to know personally, I can speak to John’s personal commitment to giving his work everything he has. This is no hobby of his, and the challenges that come with that is something the rest of us must consider.