On episode #012 of The Sizzle I talk to Iesha, who is an edu-researcher, former teacher and senior leader. She recently published a book called The Unexpected Leader (link below). We discuss the book and much much more, including: - Unexpected Leadership - Types of Leadership - What Game of Thrones can teach us about leadership - Hip Hop as a tool for sociological examination - Facilitating mental health with photography and walking - Family - Saying what is important, not what is easy - Being "an artist" - Research and story telling Contact Iesha: @ieshasmall (twitter) www.ieshasmall.com Find The Unexpected Leader book here Contact me: @jgetaylor (twitter) Follow The Sizzle at @thesizzlepod (twitter)

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