My friend Mark and I sat down to discuss Sam (Leslie) Phillips albums The Turning, The Indescribable Wow & Cruel Inventions. These three albums represent a pivotal time in Sam's life and in this episode, Mark & I discuss  The Turning, the album that started Sam's break away from the Fundamental Christian machine and CCM music. We dig into each song and reflect back how they relate to her transition.

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