Turning to Kennedy Ryan’s Reel, Amile & Phoebe discuss romantasy & the male romantic leads who populate these worlds. Alongside the fantasy of emotionally intelligent billionaires and artistically gfted providers, they discuss the blackness of Reel & the importance of specificity and lived experience in storytelling.

Through Neevah’s health battles and Dessi Blue's adventures, they delight in the ways in which the characters are written with texture, vulnerability, and interiority. They ask whether the fantasy of the “perfect man” is really about romance at all or whether it’s simply about being seen.

This episode pairs well with:

• Reel by Kennedy Ryan
• Score by Kennedy Ryan
• The 40 Days of Dating Social Experiment
• Men wearing slutty little reading glasses non-ironically
• A lychee martini with a single rose petal floating on top

Happy listening,

A&P

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