in this episode of kick your boots off, kari sits down with her assistant-turned-second-shooter carley (@carleyfilmz / @carleyhilberger) to unpack the slow (and sometimes chaotic) journey of becoming a “real” photographer. they talk about what it’s like charging friends, navigating client boundaries (texting vs. emailing, anyone?), and why professionalism sometimes feels like a weird costume we’re all forced to wear.

plus: carley shares what it’s been like second shooting under kari’s wing, how her art school background is shaping her work, and why there should be an actual handbook for second shooters everywhere.

whether you’re years into weddings or just leaving your “friend with a camera” era, this one’s for you.

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