Rafael Is joined by JT one of the creators of a new shell, called Nushell. They talk about how Nushell blends the ambitions of a shell with those a programming language, and how the team went about building a shell that feels functional and modern, while also feeling familiar to a community with deep muscle memory with existing shells. JT also talks about how they went about “optimizing for fun” and creating a delighting experience from the beginning of the project.