Socrates begins his last attempt to shock Meno into reacting to the ramifications of his own opinions and assumptions. If Meno is now happy that virtue not a knowledge (episteme) since there are no teachers of it (this itself is a false premise), then those good politicians (politicians with arete) guide cities without episteme. Socrates likens the senseless politicans to prophets and seers, to ease the transition from politicans being guided by correct opinion, through an ihtermediate stage of appearing to be guided well simply because of the good opinion of others, all the way to politicians being guided by gods, just as prophets and seers are.