In this episode of The Call, Erica Williams Simon speaks with award-winning radio show host Krista Tippett about the difference between religion and spirituality, why we should all be kinder to ourselves and what she would say to Donald Trump if she had the chance.

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Do you want to step up and do something epic? Follow your dreams, take action, change the world? In The Call, former political strategist Erica Williams Simon hosts intimate conversations with women who have answered their own call. What are the costs and challenges of taking the leap, of living your politics, of being unapologetic? How do you go from wishful thinking to real impact? What is the journey really like? Tune in, get inspired.

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