Charlie shares his conversation with two time Tony Award winner Norbert Leo Butz.  One of the most versatile and transformational actors working, with a career that now spans over 25 years.  The star of Broadway shows such as Rent, Wicked, Catch Me If You Can, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, My Fair Lady, and gritty television shows such as FX's Fosse/Verdon and Netflix's Bloodline, shares his views on the power of storytelling, how he approached his last theater gig My Fair Lady, and the advice he got from is friend Sam Rockwell.  Charlie and Norbert have been passionate about acting their entire lives, and this episode celebrates the joy and passion of a wonderful art form. You can follow CBP on Instagram @creatingbehavior, and Charlie's NYC acting conservatory, the Maggie Flanigan Studio @maggieflaniganstudio. Theme music by  https://www.thelawrencetrailer.com. For written transcripts, to leave a voicemail on SpeakPipe, or contact Charlie for private coaching, check out https://www.creatingbehaviorpodcast.com