Today’s world is rife with risk—be it a global pandemic as we experienced in 2020 or the steady churn of uncertainty that permeates both business and life. In their new book RISK: A User’s Guide, coauthors General Stanley McChrystal and Anna Butrico argue that we must develop both an interface for dealing with risk and an appetite for action. On the podcast this episode, we discuss everything from assessing risk to the need for leadership in a changing world, and the fact that you can fail without being a failure.