Adrienne Maree Brown is the author of a book I recommend so often I might as well put it in my email signature: Emergent Strategy: Shaping Change, Changing Worlds. She's a Detroit-based writer, activist, facilitator, poet, and avid sci-fi fan. In this episode, we nerd out; We talk about what birds can teach us about social movements, the value of personal pleasure, why Beyoncé is absolutely everything, and how to survive the end of the world.

Hope you love listening to this episode as much as I loved making it.