In this episode of the Leadership and Theology with a Cup of Joe Podcast, Joe Contreras sits down with John Mark Digap, the President of the Messengers of the Cross, to discuss how to lead when the tide rises. Email us questions at [email protected] us on instagram @LTCupofJoeFollow the Messengers of the Cross on Instagram @messengersofthecross Follow John Mark Digap on Instagram @jmarkkkLocation: Redwood Christian Park in Boulder Creek, California