Hosts Julie Slater and Jason Friday talk with Julie's two Chef brothers - Mark and Paul Grosz. They both own French restaurants. Mark's is Oceanique in Evanston, IL and Paul's is Cuisine in Detroit. Find out about their training at Le Francais in Chicago. Why they may need therapy for PTSD. How they discovered the pairing of wine with food, how they adapted during the pandemic, and why Paul would rather starve.

Paul is also a Culinary Arts Instructor at Schoolcraft College in Livonia, MI. Can anyone learn to cook well?? Find out in this episode. 

And we chat about Mark's son Philippe Andre - who was a guest (all about wine) on Episode 004! "Pete" got a mention in that episode and this one too - Pete is Mark's longtime foodie friend. We've brought him up a couple of times, we may need to have him on as a guest.  

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Thanks for tuning in! Keep on living those dreams, friends, CUZ YOU HAVE TO!! - jULIE AND jASON