In this week's episode, we catch up with David Ogiste founder of Nobody’s Cafe.

A real pick ’n’ mix of an episode, where we discuss everything from Fawlty Towers, to the frustration, felt over the “brown ceiling” and how we often self identify as people of colour, based on how other people see and treat us, rather than how we see ourselves. 

We also talk about the common phenomenon of “code-switching” and why people of colour often feel they have to go out on their own, to create opportunities otherwise eluded to them.